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	<title>Comments on: Stupid Job Postings: dream much? edition</title>
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		<title>By: stupid job description - Dogpile Web Search</title>
		<link>http://www.thirdbit.net/articles/2007/08/13/stupid-job-postings-dream-much-edition/#comment-1161</link>
		<author>stupid job description - Dogpile Web Search</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 20:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] them Near You.     Sponsored by:   www.livedeal.com/yellowpages   &#149; Found on Ads by Yahoo!     Stupid Job Postings: dream much? edition &#124; thirdbIT   ... will ignore the job because it's an annoying description; but maybe not. ... The thing about [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://dev.wp-plugins.org/wiki/Kramer"><img src="http://www.thirdbit.net/wp-content/plugins/kramer/kramer.php?kramer=gif-icon" class="technorati-balloon" alt="Kramer auto Pingback" style="border:0;" /></a>[&#8230;] them Near You.     Sponsored by:   <a href="http://www.livedeal.com/yellowpages" rel="nofollow">www.livedeal.com/yellowpages</a>   &#8226; Found on Ads by Yahoo!     Stupid Job Postings: dream much? edition | thirdbIT   &#8230; will ignore the job because it&#8217;s an annoying description; but maybe not. &#8230; The thing about [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: 7fff - think max value &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Yet (yet) another Boston Ruby on Rails shop</title>
		<link>http://www.thirdbit.net/articles/2007/08/13/stupid-job-postings-dream-much-edition/#comment-583</link>
		<author>7fff - think max value &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Yet (yet) another Boston Ruby on Rails shop</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 01:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.thirdbit.net/articles/2007/08/13/stupid-job-postings-dream-much-edition/#comment-583</guid>
		<description>[...] Is there anyone in Boston doing going old J2EE, LAMP, etc.? I guess not. Pete Glyman, co-founder of Geezeo, is hunting down great Ruby on Rails developers . . . He says that the kinds &#8220;of things that are good to know [are] &#8230;Ruby on Rails (duh), MySQL, Subversion and Capistrano, RJS, Scriptaculous/prototype libraries and basic unix/linux. Even if you&#8217;re new to rails that&#8217;s cool&#8230; passion, enthusiasm and a willingness to learn and grow with our team are most important.&#8221; According to their http://geezeo.com/about page, &#8220;Geezeo helps people make &#8216;Educated Financial Decisions,&#8217;&#8221; which seems like a good idea to me. One thing I like about this solicitation is that it contextualizes passion a bit more than other postings we&#8217;ve seen lately. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Is there anyone in Boston doing going old J2EE, LAMP, etc.? I guess not. Pete Glyman, co-founder of Geezeo, is hunting down great Ruby on Rails developers . . . He says that the kinds &#8220;of things that are good to know [are] &#8230;Ruby on Rails (duh), MySQL, Subversion and Capistrano, RJS, Scriptaculous/prototype libraries and basic unix/linux. Even if you&#8217;re new to rails that&#8217;s cool&#8230; passion, enthusiasm and a willingness to learn and grow with our team are most important.&#8221; According to their <a href="http://geezeo.com/about" rel="nofollow">http://geezeo.com/about</a> page, &#8220;Geezeo helps people make &#8216;Educated Financial Decisions,&#8217;&#8221; which seems like a good idea to me. One thing I like about this solicitation is that it contextualizes passion a bit more than other postings we&#8217;ve seen lately. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: amy</title>
		<link>http://www.thirdbit.net/articles/2007/08/13/stupid-job-postings-dream-much-edition/#comment-572</link>
		<author>amy</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 13:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.thirdbit.net/articles/2007/08/13/stupid-job-postings-dream-much-edition/#comment-572</guid>
		<description>Yeah, that's the other thing. If passion can be purchased at all, that price seems ridiculously low.

Poop: I had to &lt;a href="www.thirdbit.net/tags/poop" rel="nofollow"&gt;click on the tag&lt;/a&gt; to remember why I had it. Also, of course, a post on job postings: &lt;blockquote&gt;The thing about resumes and job descriptions is that there’s really no hope that most of what we say in them is going to be particularly useful in matching people to work. All the interesting, useful things to know about jobs, and about people doing jobs, come out later, after everyone’s already committed. So can’t we all just cut the crap?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This comment thread is very ryan-centric, isn't it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, that&#8217;s the other thing. If passion can be purchased at all, that price seems ridiculously low.</p>
<p>Poop: I had to <a href="www.thirdbit.net/tags/poop" rel="nofollow">click on the tag</a> to remember why I had it. Also, of course, a post on job postings:<br />
<blockquote>The thing about resumes and job descriptions is that there’s really no hope that most of what we say in them is going to be particularly useful in matching people to work. All the interesting, useful things to know about jobs, and about people doing jobs, come out later, after everyone’s already committed. So can’t we all just cut the crap?</p></blockquote>
<p>This comment thread is very ryan-centric, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan J. McDonough</title>
		<link>http://www.thirdbit.net/articles/2007/08/13/stupid-job-postings-dream-much-edition/#comment-571</link>
		<author>Ryan J. McDonough</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 13:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.thirdbit.net/articles/2007/08/13/stupid-job-postings-dream-much-edition/#comment-571</guid>
		<description>For $2500 over a 30-day period, I can't be sure I'd even show up. For $25,000 over the same time, maybe I'd be moderately enthusiastic. But perhaps for the bargain price of $250,000 in 30-days, then maybe I'd be "passionate" about coding :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For $2500 over a 30-day period, I can&#8217;t be sure I&#8217;d even show up. For $25,000 over the same time, maybe I&#8217;d be moderately enthusiastic. But perhaps for the bargain price of $250,000 in 30-days, then maybe I&#8217;d be &#8220;passionate&#8221; about coding <img src='http://www.thirdbit.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.thirdbit.net/articles/2007/08/13/stupid-job-postings-dream-much-edition/#comment-570</link>
		<author>ryan</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 12:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.thirdbit.net/articles/2007/08/13/stupid-job-postings-dream-much-edition/#comment-570</guid>
		<description>Words like that begin to irritate me, too, when used over and over by people who don't hold meaning to the word itself. Anyone from 37signals who uses the word passionate doesn't bother me, but some manager posting a job using the word passionate because he noticed the guys at 37signals use it, is annoying.

Chances are, though, there are plenty of people who would respond to that. "Hey, I'm passionate about programming, why don't I apply?" So, like you said, I don't blame the managers posting those job offers for using it. Maybe it will backfire, and the really talented people who prefer not to use the word passionate will ignore the job because it's an annoying description; but maybe not.

And... That's funny that you have a "poop" tag, by the way. How often do you see a site with content about poop AND rails?!?! Perfect!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Words like that begin to irritate me, too, when used over and over by people who don&#8217;t hold meaning to the word itself. Anyone from 37signals who uses the word passionate doesn&#8217;t bother me, but some manager posting a job using the word passionate because he noticed the guys at 37signals use it, is annoying.</p>
<p>Chances are, though, there are plenty of people who would respond to that. &#8220;Hey, I&#8217;m passionate about programming, why don&#8217;t I apply?&#8221; So, like you said, I don&#8217;t blame the managers posting those job offers for using it. Maybe it will backfire, and the really talented people who prefer not to use the word passionate will ignore the job because it&#8217;s an annoying description; but maybe not.</p>
<p>And&#8230; That&#8217;s funny that you have a &#8220;poop&#8221; tag, by the way. How often do you see a site with content about poop AND rails?!?! Perfect!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave C.</title>
		<link>http://www.thirdbit.net/articles/2007/08/13/stupid-job-postings-dream-much-edition/#comment-568</link>
		<author>Dave C.</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 01:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.thirdbit.net/articles/2007/08/13/stupid-job-postings-dream-much-edition/#comment-568</guid>
		<description>Heh, I was hoping this rant would also touch on the turn of phrase "technically gifted" a la "ostensibly impressive."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, I was hoping this rant would also touch on the turn of phrase &#8220;technically gifted&#8221; a la &#8220;ostensibly impressive.&#8221;</p>
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